Educate and Rejuvenate with Kelsey Sorenson

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Music.

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Who knew? Yeah, who knew? We're officially recording. We are.

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Hello and welcome to the Balancing Act podcast. I am Jamie Wackel here with Joseph Vitale.

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We are cracking ourselves up on the way into this episode and hopefully that

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will be the vibe for the whole thing. How are you, Mr. Vitale?

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I mean, you know, I'm amazing. I'm great.

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I put my favorite shirt on today. I don't know why this is my favorite shirt,

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but I'm like, you know what? I'm wearing this shirt today. It's my favorite shirt.

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It kind of looks so like a little bit flowers, but it also looks like it could be fireworks.

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It does. It's got like a whole, it's got like that kind of vibe to it,

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I guess. You know? Yeah. Yeah, you know?

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Oh, there you go. Baby, you're a firework. Yeah, that's me. You know, me and Katy Perry.

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Well, we have a great guest who's going to help us with, you know,

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again, our whole concept here

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is balancing life and teaching and parenting and all those fun things.

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And Kelsey's going to fix it all. so she's our

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guest today that's going to jump in here so let's

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get her let's get her in the room shall we hey Kelsey

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Sorensen what's going on how are you so good

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how are you I'm amazing please fix our lives I know I'm like that was a big

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promise hopefully I can somewhat live up to it you know so we are in the we

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are in the throes of a you know of a new school year we're just you Rolling ourselves along,

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getting knee-deep and ankle-deep into all of the responsibilities that we have

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in the chaos to start the school year, as well as our kids' things that are going on.

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So we'd love to hear from you, and of course, first to hear about yourself,

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your story, and what's behind the whole concept of Educate and Rejuvenate.

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Yes. And I feel like what we do has a lot in common because you're talking about

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teachers and everything they juggle.

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And I'm reminding teachers that you can educate and rejuvenate.

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That's so important that we know that we can have a life outside of teaching.

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And I feel like sometimes we don't think we can. We can? Yeah.

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We can. No way.

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So um i actually started my company almost

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11 years ago which is crazy actually yeah

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it'll be 11 years in two months um it

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was originally called wife teacher mommy it was just a tpt store so that's why

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it was called that it was about me um but last year we finally rebranded to

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educate and rejuvenate which is funny because we started our conference four

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years ago with that name and And we had been debating because we're like,

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people kept being like, well, I'm not a wife or I'm not a mommy or I'm not even a female, you know?

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We're like, yeah, we invite everyone into this community. It's not about me.

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And we couldn't think of the name. And then when I was writing my book,

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Educate and Rejuvenate, and it came to me, oh, what if I titled the book Educate

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and Rejuvenate, like our conference?

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And I was like, wait, we've been trying to think of a name to rebrand to for

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years. We just had to be the right one.

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And then we did it. So that was really exciting.

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And so now we're educating Rejuvenate. I'm going off on rabbit holes. Sorry.

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This is perfect. No, not at all. It's like a Wednesday morning as we're recording.

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No, we want to know the backstory.

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And, you know, full disclosure, before you came on, you were like,

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hey, my kids are knocking on my door.

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They were. You know, my husband's nowhere to be found. We've been there.

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We've been in that. We've been in that mode before. Yeah.

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And for those of you that are not watching on YouTube, we're going to just tell

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you, or Spotify, that Kelsey is gloriously matching her background.

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And not only does her shirt, we were talking about Joe's shirt earlier,

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not only does her shirt match one of the stripes on her wall,

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her lipstick also matches one of the stripes on her wall.

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You know, I was just going to mention that.

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I was just going to mention that. You totally stole my thunder.

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I'm so observant. And these are the things that I always pick up on.

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Joe looks like everything is black and white for him.

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So the color just came to life. Yes, it did.

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You two are so fun. We're going to have a great time.

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I have my colors. They're the green, the pink, the blue. They're on everything

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Educate and Rejuvenate related.

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So I wear shirts that are the brand colors. I wear the lipstick that's the right

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pink. It's perfect. I appreciate it.

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I have three different outfits I wear for my Reels. So like that's so like that's

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seriously intentional. It's intentional.

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All right. Listen, OK, I guess I got a boy moment for you.

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Yes, there is no doubt about it that that was a boy moment.

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There's been a lot of there's been a lot of boy moments for me in the last couple of months.

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I had to take my daughter to the mall because she had to buy,

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as she likes to call them, booby cutlets for a strapless whatever thing that she was wearing.

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And there's just a lot going on with stuff like that and trying to figure out

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what's and she's like well what size should i get i'm like i'm out i'm out i'm

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i'll be outside i have no clue.

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Nope uh nope don't want to know don't don't care i'll meet you at wetznell's pretzels,

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holy crap that's exactly where we went i know we went to wetz we were at windsor

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and then we went to wetznell's pretzels i was like let's go get pretzels and

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that's what we did yeah and they were underwhelming.

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Talk about rabbit holes. Holy crap. Are we off the track?

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Yeah, here we are. I'm at home. We go down rabbit holes. We do this in my membership

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too. We'll be talking about

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the nervous system. And then somebody will put something in the comments and

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we like go down rabbit hole for a minute.

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And then I'm like, okay, let's go back to what we were talking about. Yeah. Right.

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Um, but no, I, I, I actually saw, um, a friend of our show, a guest who's been

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on, um, Anna Kay, Anna Kowal.

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Uh, Oh, I love her. Yeah. She's amazing.

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She's our keynote at our, um, summer conference. Yeah.

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Yes, she, yes, she was. And right after we had had her on our show and,

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you know, she puts out great content and, and talks a lot about the profession,

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but also talks about like how we can recharge the batteries and get ourselves

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that space that we need in order to be the best version of ourselves,

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the best husband, the best father, the best wife, the best mother.

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But no, and that's kind of like how this whole thing came about.

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I was like, she was going to be on your conference. I was like,

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you know what? I need to talk to Kelsey and see if we can get her on the show. And here we are.

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I'm so glad you did. We've been coordinating this for like a couple of months

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now. Yes, we have. And now it's finally happening.

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I love it. And when this show is released, if you're listening to us now,

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folks, just a little teaser, we are going to be on Kelsey's podcast.

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So you'll be able to find a link to her show in the description down below.

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So definitely when you're done listening to this entire episode all the way

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to the end, definitely head on over to that link and check out our continued

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conversation with Kelsey.

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Yes. And it's called Educate and Rejuvenate the Podcast. Surprise,

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surprise. That is everything. We have everything.

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Educate and Rejuvenate. Even my book is Educate and Rejuvenate.

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Our membership is the Educate and Rejuvenate Club.

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Our conference is Educate and Rejuvenate. It can get a little confusing sometimes,

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but also easy to understand, right?

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They're all part of the Educate and Rejuvenate world.

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You are a brand, girl. Down to the lips. Yeah.

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That's right. I never thought of it that way.

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So tell us a little bit about your background for those of you who don't know.

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I didn't talk about that. I just talked about the whole like brand thing.

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So which I love.

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But so I started teaching third grade.

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I taught third grade and then I had my son and I decided to stay home with him

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and substitute teach part time. So I substitute taught for about four years

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in all elementary, so all the elementary grade levels.

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And while I was doing that is when I started my paid teacher's store.

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So I started creating sub plans because I had been in the classroom as a teacher.

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And then I started subbing.

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And there were times where I would be like, oh, I'm supposed to make this last

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the whole day. How do I do that? You know? Yeah. So.

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So I started making my own to bring and then I put them on TPT and both teachers

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and subs loved them because like, I mean, taking a day off is the worst thing

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in the world when you're a teacher, right?

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Like what other job do you have to lay out everything you would do for a whole day?

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Like I can't think of another one. And in particular, as an elementary school

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teacher, because for those of us who teach secondary, you may have one or two different preps.

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But for elementary school, you could look at seven or eight and filling an entire

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day, especially when you don't feel well and you genuinely have that like wake

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up in the middle of the night. Oh, no, what am I going to do?

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So that is a genius idea. Yeah. Yeah.

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And for me, for me looking at that, like I know I make jokes about I have some

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close friends that are elementary school teachers and I bust their chops like,

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oh, what are you finger painting this week?

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And trust me, elementary school teachers work harder than any any group that's

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out there because I feel like they're just different.

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Like, yeah, you're either in elementary or you're secondary.

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I find very few people feel. Yeah. And it's what's really funny is like I look

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at that age group and I'm like, nope, not going to happen. And then they many

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look at our age group and like, oh, my God, I don't know how you do it.

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How do you do middle school? How do you?

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Yeah. So that's and by the way, like third grade, that age, as soon as you said

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they're great, I was like, oh, like that's the age that like I probably I of

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course I love my children.

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But like that's the age that I loved the most with them because they start like

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really understanding things a little bit more and they could do more fun things.

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And like, you know, the sports start, you get to watch them achieve stuff.

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It's just a very fun age that I remember fondly.

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I just really enjoyed that time period.

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I always think of third grade as the first year where they start to become socially mean.

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There's a divide. They do. Especially the girls.

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Yeah. There's something odd that happens. Second grade to me is the last age

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of like, we're all friends.

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These are all my friends on the playground. And then something happens in third

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grade where they start to like socially divide themselves in some way.

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And yeah, the girls are like, your lipstick doesn't match your background.

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I'm not going to be friends with you anymore.

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Oh, my gosh. Meanwhile, boys are like, whatever. We just, you know,

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we're just idiots and laugh at fart jokes. Yeah.

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But yeah, that's so you had it. So you had teachers with teachers with substitute plans.

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I did. Yeah. And then so I put them up and it was a slow trickle at first,

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but eventually a pin on Pinterest went viral. And that was back when Pinterest

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was like even bigger than it is right now.

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And so it took off and I'm like, OK, I'm like doing this. I'm running a company now. Cool.

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Like I didn't even really mean to. I just meant to like kind of put some stuff up there.

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Eventually we started branching into more different types of

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resources and then the covid pandemic

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hit and for the first week of that

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pandemic it was like sales went

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way up at that time basically sub plans were all we were selling so it went

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way up because people were like oh what if i get sick but then the school is

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closed and then it was like nosedive and by this point this is what was supporting

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my family i had hired a team one of my friends who i taught with to actually

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come work for me. And I was like, oh, what do we do now?

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So we started creating digital resources and packets.

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And then we actually started a membership of all of our resources when like

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closer to when the school started back up.

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And that is when I surveyed the membership. And I was like, what else do you

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need? Thinking like, what other resources should we create?

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And surprise, surprise burnout is what kept coming up. Like, I'm so overwhelmed.

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Like, it isn't like another printable is going to fix this right

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and personally I had

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actually the year before when I had my third child gone through um

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postpartum anxiety where my anxiety had had I told I tell the story in depth

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in my book but I had it I always had anxiety I just thought it was a part of

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me that I couldn't get rid of right um but then it really came to a head when

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I had my third child and had postpartum anxiety.

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I didn't sleep for almost 48 hours.

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I ended up in the ER. And like, when I say that, I'm not exaggerating.

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And it's not even because of my baby.

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It's because when I tried to lay down, my body would just like jolt me awake.

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It was like this panic, like panic attacks, right?

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So I went to the ER. I thought I was having a heart attack and they diagnosed

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me with postpartum anxiety.

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They got me a medication, starting to see a therapist. And that helped.

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And that is when I realized that I didn't want to just worry my life away.

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I wanted to enjoy my life. And...

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So that is when a few months later, I felt like I was getting to a more stable

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place like where I was before.

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But I was like, this isn't enough. I want to actually stop living in this perpetual,

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I'm anxious about everything cycle.

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Because that was me from the time I was a little girl.

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Like, I was a little girl who we'd learn about volcanoes in school.

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And all of a sudden, I'd be like, is that mountain over there a volcano?

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And my mom would be like, no, it's not. I'm like, no, I think it's a volcano.

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And I would just worry about it constantly.

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And so I started working with a life coach.

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And that is actually what helped me to get out of that and start to learn some

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skills that I could use both in my work overwhelm, in my personal overwhelm with everything.

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And and so that was

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six years ago and since then like

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it has been incredible the transformation i've seen

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with all the tools all the things that i've learned the certifications

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i've done the teachers that i've been working with so what what happened when

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i did that survey and overwhelm came up i'm like oh they don't need more printables

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they need what i've been like working through myself like that's what they need

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yeah so that's when i decided to not only um

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Well, first I hired a life coach to come in and I thought that,

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oh, yeah, that'll be it. I'll hire a life coach to come in and do that.

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But it was a few months later that I decided, no, I need to certify.

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I need to become like a life coach in my own program. So I did that.

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And so I've been doing that since 2017.

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2021 2022 now how does

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someone go about becoming certified in that way

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so there are tons of different certifications so

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the way i started um was i did the one that my coach who i who i you know worked

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with and loved i did the same one that she did and then technically for life

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coaching is a bit different than therapy where it's like you can only work with you know for

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a therapist, it would be a patient, a patient in your state, right?

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And with a life coach, it is a little more money. There is not like an actual,

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like somebody could just say, I'm a life coach, right?

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But there are different certification programs that you can go through that

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actually prepare you for working with clients and the tools and all of that.

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But so many coaches, we bring in a different variety of things that we've learned

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from our own experience as well. and we bring that in.

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Now, one thing I always am clear with the members, for example,

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I actually don't even work with one-on-one clients. It's all in a group.

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We have a membership and we just discuss it.

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I have a monthly theme that I teach and then we have kind of more like office

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hours or open coaching throughout the rest of the month.

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And so it's in a group format. So I'm like, if you need more support,

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I highly encourage that you do talk to a therapist or get medication or This

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is just one tool in our toolbox.

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It's the community piece.

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And that is important. There have actually been studies that I cite in my book

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that show that the group coaching, and this is the coaches who went through

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the life coach certification that I went through, the tools that we use.

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They studied and it was with doctors, but it was women in a high demand job.

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It was female physicians and they studied them with and without the group coaching

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and the group coaching made a huge difference in their levels.

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And, you know, they're doctors, they know how to do all these studies.

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So like all these levels of like, um, the Neff like self-compassion score and

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all these different things.

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And they saw how much it drastically helps them. And that community is actually a huge part of that.

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Because when you think of Maslow's, right, that love and belonging is such an important piece of it.

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It's like, you know, right at the bottom of the pyramid before self-actualization.

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So before we can have that, we need to feel like we belong.

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And that's what group coaching can do for us as teachers. And if you don't feel

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like you have that in your building or you feel like you want a safe space where

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it's like maybe not teachers in your building, a lot of our community has found

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that the Educate and Rejuvenate Club is a great way to get that.

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I love that so much. I had been in the same school for a really long time,

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and we had sort of created our own community in that sense.

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And so I left a few years ago, and now as the years have gone on,

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several people have left, retired, transferred, things like that.

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And so I think that I can just, I can think of at least five of my friends that

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your community would be perfect for because they do love teaching.

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They still want to be in it. But that sense of belonging, everybody's sort of

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grasping at straws at this point of like, what am I supposed to do?

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And that is what happened to me also of starting in a new space.

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Like, I know that this is my career.

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I know this is what I love. But I didn't have that same sense of community that

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I once had. It was, you know, it was completely gone. So that sounds really, yeah.

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It's same district, right? Because I've had some of the same,

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Jamie and I are in the same district and I've had some of the same experiences

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where I've went from one building to another, to another, um,

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for a variety of different, all for different reasons.

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Um, and, and all for good reasons, not like sometimes you need to change.

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Sometimes you need to change.

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Uh, you know, sometimes it's a different opportunity, which is what happened

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when I went from, you know, one middle school to the middle school I'm at now.

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Um, it's just how it wound up. Um, but I also know some of the people that Jamie's

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talking about might be in a building where there's climate and culture issues, where there's, um,

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you know, issues that, you know, as teachers were, uh, I guess this leads me

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to a question too, Kelsey, as teachers were, you know.

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Wanting to be in control, it's hard to relinquish, especially when there's decisions

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that are out of our hands that we have to put in place, whether it be student

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discipline, whether it be, um, you know, curricula related things, change of programs.

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Um, so what are some ways that, you know, that teachers can kind of,

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what tools in their toolbox could a teacher maybe look to through your program

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that would help them deal with those stressors, uh, a little bit better?

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Yes, I love this question. So this month, so we're in August right now,

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when this comes out, we'll be in September, and I'll talk about what we're doing there too.

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But I'm going to talk about August because we've already started, right?

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And already utilizing these tools, that's what teachers are doing.

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So this month's theme is Anchor in the Storm. And the reason I called it that

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is because back to school, it feels like you're just being thrown in to another storm.

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There's so much going on. You don't feel like, I don't feel like the teachers

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want me to be like, hey, here's a bunch of other things you can do,

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right? Right. Because they already have enough things to do. Right.

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Yeah. We need to do is find our our anchor. Like what is it we can do when the

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storm hits so that even when the outside is chaos, we don't necessarily have

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to feel that chaos inside all the time.

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And so with that, we really talked about our nervous system.

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And that's why I mentioned that and how we can often get dysregulated.

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And that's one thing I think teachers and one of the talking points we had teachers

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and everyday jugglers have in common.

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The stress the time constraints the burnout a lot of that is what we need is self-regulation.

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And oftentimes we aren't doing that we are just feeling constantly dysregulated

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we talked about like our window of tolerance and how often we find ourselves

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outside of it we find ourselves,

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consistently um like anxious all the time or you know just feeling like i can't

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do another thing i don't even want to get out of bed in the morning because

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i feel like the demands are just so high And I've heard this in my community,

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teachers being like, I just feel like I don't even want to get out of bed.

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Like, I just feel the weight on me.

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And so what we talked about is that it doesn't matter whether you're teaching

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30 kids or juggling work from home with toddlers, your nervous system all the

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time is scanning to see if you're safe or if you're not. And so...

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And it doesn't matter if you are actually physically safe. Your body can't identify

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the difference between if you're being, like if there were actually a hurricane

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you needed to run from, like a physical storm or just all the stressors in your life.

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And that can cause you to either shut down or go into hyper mode.

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And when that happens, that outside chaos becomes inside chaos.

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So we feel it all the time and we lose access to our thinking brain.

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So oftentimes people will just be like, oh, you just need to think positively.

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You just need to think better about that. And often, like I love mindset work.

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Actually, one of the biggest tools that we talked about in my certification

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is the, I mean, it's cognitive behavioral therapy based.

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It's the self-coaching model where we see how our thoughts can shape our feelings,

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our actions and results.

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But if when we're in that storm and we're feeling dysregulated,

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we lose access to our thinking brain.

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And that's our prefrontal cortex.

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And the part of us that problem solves all that goes offline.

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So we're not lazy. We're not unmotivated. We don't need to shame ourselves about

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that. That is normal and that is human.

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We don't need to fix it in that moment. We don't need to fix anything.

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We just need to do something to help us anchor in.

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And so what we did as a community this month, for one, I talked about all the

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research and all the things about that.

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That was a very short version, but we created an anchor menu.

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And this is something that I learned from another, I'm doing another program

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right now. I learned from my mentor, Kate Northrup.

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And it's a nervous system menu where you can pick one to five things that you

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can do in that moment when you find yourself dysregulated.

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So it might be taking three deep breaths. It might be pushing your feet into

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the floor and grounding yourself.

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It might be, and again, you can have some that are depending on a situation.

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You want at least a couple that you could do if you're in the classroom and

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you're teaching, right?

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Like taking the deep breaths or pushing your feet into the floor,

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but also some things that help you to regulate are to laugh.

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Like maybe that's when you get out your joke book with your class and you share

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a joke and you all get a laugh together.

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Again, some things you can pre-decide because when you can make a decision ahead

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of time of what you're going to do, you can create a habit of doing that,

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of self-regulating in the moment.

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And that's going to help this year go by so much more smoothly.

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And the great thing about it is we also talked about how can you set the tone

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in your classroom for that this year so that you and your students together

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can do this, like have them create their own anchor menu.

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Because again, how often are the students dysregulated? And then we all kind

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of our nervous systems like almost sync up like, oh, you're just right.

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Like we're going to just trigger each other all over the place.

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So it's also a fun exercise that you can do with your students to set the tone

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for the school year as well.

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That's fantastic. I mean, number one, I love a nautical reference more than the average.

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You know, I mean, I just, you know, I am an official boat captain.

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So it's like all the things.

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I don't have any tattoos, but I often think like that I would,

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you know, that would be on my like top three list of what I would get if I got a tattoo.

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She does have an eye patch and a wooden leg. So she is part pirate.

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It's true but i do um yeah so i

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i always say you know all things um uh from

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the sea are for me um so i i do really appreciate

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that anchor in the storm and also what i want to comment on is as someone of

00:24:47.114 --> 00:24:52.594
my age um and there are you know quite a few of us who are now like proud members

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of the we do not care club um when you you know when you are um hit when you

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when you've been hit and attacked by perimenopause and are getting into menopause,

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the symptoms of dysregulation are.

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I mean, I don't want to frighten anyone in their, you know, 20s and 30s.

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But as someone who's like tipping over into my mid to late 40s,

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it is completely something that, I mean, I wasn't someone who was anxious.

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I wasn't an anxious person. I didn't have symptoms of anxiety.

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It has hit me in the last couple of years in a way that I completely,

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I mean, it is just so insane.

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And last year I had made a joke of it, but it was really, it was so real and true for me.

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I was covering a class where the furniture was so triggering to my,

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I mean, it would completely shut me down.

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There were chairs that had wheels that children could roll around.

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And on top of the rolling, they could spin them.

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And they could also, there was a click wheel, like thingy on the side. Mm-hmm.

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I, I mean, within like 30 seconds of being in there, I couldn't,

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it was, I mean, it, it, it, it was, I know you understand what I'm saying.

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So for people who, you know, are kind of like, well, what's the big deal?

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It was, I couldn't function and talk about your thinking brain.

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I was, it wrecked me. Well, I'm going to jump in with two things.

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I have a hot take and a hard pass right now. Okay.

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And I will die on this hill. I will kill you on this hill. That's the other

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thing I will say. Whoever decided...

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That rolling furniture was a good idea in a middle school classroom.

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Oh my God. Should, should be tart and, tart and feathered. And that is a PG thing for me to say.

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It is the dumbest thing in the history.

00:27:03.789 --> 00:27:08.449
I can get on, but I can totally get on board for my sister's kids.

00:27:08.709 --> 00:27:12.689
Um, when they were younger, um, there was a, like a closet in their class,

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in their school and some students who really needed it.

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There was like an alternative choice seating or, you know, I can completely

00:27:23.649 --> 00:27:29.589
understand wanting some, you know, some students like needing that movement

00:27:29.589 --> 00:27:31.629
or space, the whole room,

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like 25, 11 year olds, like at this.

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And then as soon as it's quiet, you get, It was like, I can't be in here.

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And I would go back to my room and everything was stationary.

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And there was like this immediate, like I can breathe.

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There's not all the noise of the chairs. Oh my goodness. I mean,

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but I'm also the person who put, like I bought like those little felt like stickies. Oh yeah.

00:28:03.789 --> 00:28:09.049
Yes. Like I don't care for the sound when the chairs pull out and like the metal is on metal.

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And that's, and I, so I have all these little felt bottoms and I know immediately

00:28:13.629 --> 00:28:17.249
when one of the felt needs to be replaced on a chair.

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I can hear it from, and this is, I'm telling you, this is something that has

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taken over me in this age that I'm in right now, where it's not something 20

00:28:28.509 --> 00:28:30.589
years ago where I would have had the same.

00:28:30.749 --> 00:28:34.409
So those kinds of things also, when you're talking about like rejuvenating,

00:28:34.689 --> 00:28:39.389
it is like, it's it could be something right now you're 30 and you're thinking

00:28:39.389 --> 00:28:45.009
like what well guess what it it's coming for you i'm sorry to tell you right

00:28:45.009 --> 00:28:50.169
yeah can we put some people aren't like me and they've always had it right like,

00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:53.220
it can hit later. And I've actually, Jamie, you're not alone.

00:28:53.300 --> 00:28:56.520
I've seen that like most of, I'm in my thirties, but most of the people in the

00:28:56.520 --> 00:28:58.540
club are older than me actually.

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You're really speaking to the perimenopausal group right now. I really am.

00:29:04.660 --> 00:29:08.940
I really know. I feel like every day I usually am. And so I I've seen that a

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lot. Like it's like, why is this happening now?

00:29:11.760 --> 00:29:17.040
And it, it can happen anytime. Like even if you haven't had patterns of dysregulation.

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It can happen because of perimenopause or just different things.

00:29:21.180 --> 00:29:25.360
We have different stressors at different phases of life, like aging parents.

00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:30.540
Which is something we've talked about. Yeah. And so Kelsey, you just mentioned

00:29:30.540 --> 00:29:34.120
also a lot of people dealing with aging parents or things coming up in your

00:29:34.120 --> 00:29:36.560
life that you hadn't had to deal with before.

00:29:36.900 --> 00:29:40.220
And that is something that we talk about quite a bit, being part of the sandwich

00:29:40.220 --> 00:29:47.620
generation. It's something that Joe and I, you know, are prevailing daily.

00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.960
Hard-carrying members. Yes. And so that can also really, you know,

00:29:53.040 --> 00:29:54.900
throw you for a loop as well.

00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:58.040
So any way to deal with those things too.

00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:03.100
And also as a parent now, I have, which is another thing that really throws

00:30:03.100 --> 00:30:11.280
you, can throw you overboard, so to speak, is like parenting teenagers because. Oh, yeah.

00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:18.960
There's something really special about living with many versions of yourself.

00:30:20.500 --> 00:30:25.100
And, you know, it's been a fun couple of years.

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I mean, I've been in middle school. Joe and I have been in middle school, you know, 25, 27 years.

00:30:30.540 --> 00:30:34.920
We're starting my 25th year, his 27th year. So we are, you know,

00:30:35.040 --> 00:30:38.320
we're used to middle school age kids.

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But when you are with them all day, and then you come home to more of them.

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It's something really special. And they're the little versions of you,

00:30:49.433 --> 00:30:50.873
like you mentioned. It's like karma.

00:30:51.693 --> 00:30:56.253
And they know, you know, we all know what our own triggers are and they really

00:30:56.253 --> 00:30:58.033
know how to just get you with a look.

00:30:58.053 --> 00:31:04.453
I got very lucky because the seventh grade and eighth grade year for me was pandemic year.

00:31:05.693 --> 00:31:09.333
So I really lucked out where the stressors... Kids were not in school.

00:31:09.493 --> 00:31:13.293
Because the kids were not in school and they weren't dealing with the stressors.

00:31:14.413 --> 00:31:17.913
Of seventh and eighth grade, which it's, it's awful.

00:31:18.093 --> 00:31:22.153
I mean, Kelsey, think back, um, like, would you want to redo middle school?

00:31:22.333 --> 00:31:24.273
Most people are like, absolutely not.

00:31:24.853 --> 00:31:28.593
Absolutely not. Um, because you also mentioned about like doing a student,

00:31:28.593 --> 00:31:33.753
uh, anchor menu and a lot of times we're dealing with the most impulsive age group.

00:31:33.993 --> 00:31:38.573
Um, and, and, and in your life, that's when you're most impulsive.

00:31:38.853 --> 00:31:40.373
There's home or home or imbalances.

00:31:40.733 --> 00:31:44.953
Your brain is still developing. You're figuring out about relationships and,

00:31:44.953 --> 00:31:47.513
you know, do I like girls? Do I like boys?

00:31:47.713 --> 00:31:50.073
Like there's all sorts of stuff going on.

00:31:50.633 --> 00:31:54.213
Um, and then you're managing, you know, learning into all of that.

00:31:54.533 --> 00:31:58.613
So everyone's better than you. That's what we have a lot of that.

00:31:59.353 --> 00:32:02.133
Everyone's better than me. I'm not good enough. Yeah.

00:32:02.333 --> 00:32:05.173
And a lot of things that Jamie's talking about, like the things that I struggle

00:32:05.173 --> 00:32:07.933
is like, I guess I would say active teacher brain.

00:32:08.213 --> 00:32:10.693
Um, like the other day, just to give you an example.

00:32:11.093 --> 00:32:14.333
Uh, my daughter was getting a procedure done at the dentist.

00:32:14.593 --> 00:32:16.193
Uh, she was obviously uncomfortable.

00:32:16.673 --> 00:32:22.073
Um, you know, she was getting dental implants done and was not having a good time. I mean, who does?

00:32:22.433 --> 00:32:26.493
Um, so the doctor called me in cause she was in the middle of doing something

00:32:26.493 --> 00:32:29.313
and my daughter was kind of upset and, and, you know, was crying,

00:32:29.613 --> 00:32:31.393
which was, was par for the course.

00:32:31.393 --> 00:32:34.913
But like, I'm not making eye contact with the doctor cause I'm watching what's

00:32:34.913 --> 00:32:39.273
happening in the room, because that's me being on cafeteria duty,

00:32:39.513 --> 00:32:42.573
having a conversation with an adult.

00:32:43.478 --> 00:32:47.078
While scanning the room and watching what's going on to make sure everybody

00:32:47.078 --> 00:32:48.638
is doing what they're supposed to do.

00:32:48.758 --> 00:32:52.478
So my brain, and I had to actually, and the dentist I had spoken to multiple

00:32:52.478 --> 00:32:54.138
times, we'd been to the office multiple times.

00:32:54.258 --> 00:32:58.418
So it knows me. And I actually said like, Hey, I apologize that I wasn't like

00:32:58.418 --> 00:33:00.278
fully engaged in that conversation.

00:33:00.278 --> 00:33:04.978
I can assure you I was, but that's where my brain goes when I see trauma or

00:33:04.978 --> 00:33:09.138
hear things like I can't focus on, I can focus on the conversation,

00:33:09.298 --> 00:33:10.438
but I'm not going to look at you.

00:33:10.558 --> 00:33:13.358
And I don't want to, I don't want you to see that as a sign of disrespect.

00:33:13.658 --> 00:33:16.038
That's just how my brain works. I know that now.

00:33:17.098 --> 00:33:19.118
And it took me a while to kind of figure that out.

00:33:20.318 --> 00:33:23.318
Well, I think the fact that you communicated that was good, too.

00:33:23.478 --> 00:33:25.338
It's like, hey, I was I was paying attention.

00:33:25.778 --> 00:33:29.178
I just this is how my brain works. This is how how I work.

00:33:29.378 --> 00:33:33.758
You know, and that's what that's what we do is we all like with coaching.

00:33:33.958 --> 00:33:37.398
The important thing is like the framework I teach in my book is observe,

00:33:37.618 --> 00:33:41.678
choose, align. Those are the three steps. It's really quite simple.

00:33:42.098 --> 00:33:46.358
But it's getting to know ourselves. Let's repeat that again, Kelsey. Tell us again.

00:33:47.078 --> 00:33:50.018
Observe. Observe. Choose. Align.

00:33:50.598 --> 00:33:54.178
So observe is when we just get conscious of like Joe, for example,

00:33:54.398 --> 00:33:57.478
he noticed this pattern of this is how I am, right?

00:33:57.618 --> 00:34:00.498
This is how like, you know, like in the cafeteria, I would do it this way.

00:34:00.598 --> 00:34:02.218
And then in the dentist office, it happened that way.

00:34:02.338 --> 00:34:05.638
So he observes like, oh, this is like, you know.

00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.079
What the way i naturally handle these

00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.159
types of situations right and then choose is like oh like

00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.959
and he chooses that's not a problem so i'm

00:34:15.959 --> 00:34:18.719
going to do is communicate just communicate that

00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:23.659
big hey i wasn't um ignoring you i was paying attention but this is how this

00:34:23.659 --> 00:34:27.659
is how i work again that's a very simplified version of it but like it's no

00:34:27.659 --> 00:34:31.779
but i get it that's yeah and that's i'm i'm doing those steps without consciously

00:34:31.779 --> 00:34:36.739
knowing i'm doing those steps because um you know and it happens all the time.

00:34:36.839 --> 00:34:39.519
There are times my wife, I don't want to say she calls me out on it,

00:34:39.579 --> 00:34:41.759
but she'll be like, hey, you're kind of not. I'm like, no, but I am.

00:34:42.499 --> 00:34:45.659
But when we're in a public space like that, and there's a lot of people around

00:34:45.659 --> 00:34:48.279
for a variety of reasons, I'm just active.

00:34:48.499 --> 00:34:51.699
My brain is active, and I'm constantly looking around and listening because

00:34:51.699 --> 00:34:53.959
I'm a product of my environment.

00:34:54.179 --> 00:34:57.819
I mean, that's what I've, you know, I've been in that space for a very long time.

00:34:58.499 --> 00:35:02.619
And we do have to mention, for those of you who are as big a fan as Joe's daughter,

00:35:02.759 --> 00:35:05.719
Sophia, as I am. Yeah. Hey girl. Shout out to my girl.

00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:11.839
Um, she's great. She's doing wonderfully. She's recovering beautifully. Oh yeah. Yeah.

00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:16.419
Okay. And you know, in case anyone else was curious, like how did she do after

00:35:16.419 --> 00:35:18.299
the doctor's crying scene?

00:35:18.499 --> 00:35:23.039
Um, she's great. Oh yes. Um, she's ready. She's ready to be done with all of

00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:24.439
it. So our hands love you.

00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:28.419
Yeah. I mean, who doesn't, um, but no.

00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:31.339
And also she struggles with some of the same things that I struggle with in

00:35:31.339 --> 00:35:33.179
regards to anxiety and stress.

00:35:33.579 --> 00:35:36.559
And I'm listening to you talk about the anchor menu and I'm like,

00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:40.779
yep, she's, you know, we've talked about the fact that they're going into their

00:35:40.779 --> 00:35:42.419
senior year. She's applying to colleges.

00:35:42.839 --> 00:35:45.579
You know, she's worried about the finances of everything. Why?

00:35:45.699 --> 00:35:48.579
I have no idea because she's not paying for it. So it's like,

00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:50.539
you don't need to worry about that.

00:35:50.659 --> 00:35:53.099
Like, we'll cross all those bridges when we get to it. Like,

00:35:53.279 --> 00:35:55.839
you know, I always joke, like there's no luggage rack on a hearse.

00:35:55.939 --> 00:35:56.959
We're not going to take it with us.

00:35:57.399 --> 00:35:59.879
So it's either going to come to you now or it's going to come to you later,

00:36:00.219 --> 00:36:02.239
whether it's your education or something else.

00:36:03.339 --> 00:36:06.719
But for other people that maybe, and I use this phrase often,

00:36:07.179 --> 00:36:08.459
can't see the forest through the trees.

00:36:09.759 --> 00:36:14.019
Those are some Joe-isms. Yes. We have a list of Joe-isms. That's a Joe-ism.

00:36:14.019 --> 00:36:17.079
Starting with in the throes. In the throes. Yes.

00:36:17.659 --> 00:36:20.159
Conversation. Yes. Drink when you hear those terms.

00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:26.099
So how does one- We all need our shots. Yes. how does one recognize like,

00:36:26.359 --> 00:36:31.039
cause sometimes again, how does one recognize that they're even burned out to begin with?

00:36:31.319 --> 00:36:35.579
Like sometimes it's hard to maybe think like, this is the way it is,

00:36:35.699 --> 00:36:39.859
but sometimes it takes someone else saying like, Hey, you need to take a step

00:36:39.859 --> 00:36:41.819
back. And it's not just about thinking positively.

00:36:42.399 --> 00:36:48.599
Um, but you know, if there's any advice you have for, for people who are witnessing

00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.259
a loved one or family member go through it and be like, Hey,

00:36:51.339 --> 00:36:54.279
you're, you're, you're experiencing a little bit of burnout here.

00:36:54.839 --> 00:36:57.219
Maybe we need to reset in a different way.

00:36:57.972 --> 00:37:01.932
Yeah. So am I, am I speaking to that family member or am I speaking to that person?

00:37:02.372 --> 00:37:05.252
Ah, either one. You choose. You choose.

00:37:05.652 --> 00:37:10.432
So that's interesting because Kelsey's identifying the difference between how

00:37:10.432 --> 00:37:14.532
you advise a family member who might want to step in on behalf of someone that

00:37:14.532 --> 00:37:21.392
they're noticing is having a problem differently to the person directly having the problem, right?

00:37:21.392 --> 00:37:24.652
Or the issue or the anxiety or the burnout or whatever that might be.

00:37:24.652 --> 00:37:27.232
Can we start with the family member?

00:37:27.372 --> 00:37:30.332
Because I'm going to tell you, we have a lot of people who are,

00:37:30.332 --> 00:37:35.612
you know, not just actually teachers, you know, but our spouses are listening in the car alongside.

00:37:36.032 --> 00:37:38.872
And, you know, what we always want to say is like, you don't,

00:37:39.012 --> 00:37:41.432
oh, just don't go in tomorrow, right?

00:37:41.732 --> 00:37:45.632
Oh, just take a day off. Oh, have a mental health day.

00:37:46.052 --> 00:37:50.072
You know, things like that are, or just calm down, come and sit.

00:37:50.072 --> 00:37:54.612
I mean, to me, it's like there's nothing worse than ever being told to calm down.

00:37:55.072 --> 00:37:59.872
So I would love for you to give a moment of that to the support person.

00:38:00.272 --> 00:38:03.452
And very quick, if any gentlemen who are listening to this podcast,

00:38:03.752 --> 00:38:08.872
just so you're aware, no woman has ever calmed down when being told to calm down.

00:38:09.632 --> 00:38:12.872
I mean, for me, it puts me in an immediate tailspin of like,

00:38:13.012 --> 00:38:14.912
I wasn't as angry as I was before.

00:38:15.032 --> 00:38:18.572
You told me to calm. Now I'm mad. Yeah, sometimes I actually,

00:38:18.732 --> 00:38:22.492
I have done a much better job of not saying it, but sometimes I do say it and

00:38:22.492 --> 00:38:25.592
I see the words come out of my mouth and I like. Like a cartoon.

00:38:25.892 --> 00:38:29.812
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just come back here. Please, words don't go out

00:38:29.812 --> 00:38:32.972
of. Don't do that. Anyway, sorry. Kelsey, you were saying.

00:38:33.912 --> 00:38:38.292
Okay. So if I were to advise the family member or the friend they're seeing their.

00:38:39.158 --> 00:38:42.038
Um, somebody they know who's a teacher. I think that's what we're talking about.

00:38:42.278 --> 00:38:44.158
Yeah. Um, burning out in the classroom.

00:38:44.498 --> 00:38:49.318
So common, right? Like we see that so often teachers burning out,

00:38:49.438 --> 00:38:50.718
unfortunately, in all the studies.

00:38:51.018 --> 00:38:54.138
Now, if you are the friend or family member, you want to support them.

00:38:54.438 --> 00:38:56.538
The one thing I would caution is

00:38:56.538 --> 00:39:01.838
that sometimes we really want to control another person and what they do.

00:39:02.098 --> 00:39:04.118
Like how, like we want to do that, right?

00:39:04.498 --> 00:39:07.738
Because we care. We're like, I care about you so much. I don't want you to be

00:39:07.738 --> 00:39:11.298
burned out. I don't like seeing you do this. I think you need to just take a day off.

00:39:12.178 --> 00:39:17.018
And we can advise those things. We can make suggestions all day long,

00:39:17.018 --> 00:39:21.098
but we do not have control over what another person does.

00:39:21.378 --> 00:39:24.798
And we actually, in the Educate and Rejuvenate Club this year,

00:39:24.918 --> 00:39:28.938
we studied the book Let Them by Mel Robbins. Have either of you read that book?

00:39:29.198 --> 00:39:33.718
Yes. It's a good one because it helps us realize that,

00:39:34.518 --> 00:39:37.718
like it's let them they're going to do what they do and

00:39:37.718 --> 00:39:40.618
then let me like I might choose like what

00:39:40.618 --> 00:39:43.498
is it that I do have control over I don't have control over whether they

00:39:43.498 --> 00:39:46.378
do this but how can I still it's not like I don't care about

00:39:46.378 --> 00:39:52.278
them anymore I want them to burn out it's not that it's just what can I do to

00:39:52.278 --> 00:39:58.598
support them but not like just add that I'm now getting in a spiral over where

00:39:58.598 --> 00:40:02.798
they're at right because like it's kind of like you're jumping in and drowning

00:40:02.798 --> 00:40:05.838
with them if we're keeping the nautical theme, right? Yes, yes.

00:40:05.958 --> 00:40:11.358
So how can we be like a support to them so when they are ready to grab that

00:40:11.358 --> 00:40:15.378
lifeboat or jump in, that we're there for them.

00:40:15.778 --> 00:40:21.878
But they do have to choose, like we can't observe, choose a line for them. They have to do that.

00:40:22.678 --> 00:40:26.258
But we can be there. We can be ready. We can support them.

00:40:26.398 --> 00:40:30.198
And then what support can we get with any feelings or struggles we're having

00:40:30.198 --> 00:40:34.538
about our loved one and where they're at? that's what we have control over.

00:40:36.178 --> 00:40:42.038
Genius. So true. Because it doesn't always help to, you know,

00:40:42.118 --> 00:40:46.498
if someone is panicking, you know, you don't like, I don't know what to do.

00:40:46.598 --> 00:40:47.898
And then you're like, I don't know what to do.

00:40:48.478 --> 00:40:53.998
So to be ready to, that is the issue that I, that happens often for me with

00:40:53.998 --> 00:40:59.838
my partner, because he will match my, I don't, I'm upset, you know. Yeah.

00:41:00.178 --> 00:41:04.178
You know, and that is like, you know, you don't.

00:41:04.318 --> 00:41:09.578
So to have some of those things ready and in your mind to to not kind of match

00:41:09.578 --> 00:41:13.678
that person's energy is very helpful. And sometimes, sometimes you,

00:41:13.778 --> 00:41:16.898
you, you do need to match the person's energy, right?

00:41:17.238 --> 00:41:20.318
There are times when my wife will be venting about something like, yeah, you know what?

00:41:20.898 --> 00:41:27.578
I, that, I hate that too. That's that person at work who did that thing there. They, I hope that.

00:41:27.898 --> 00:41:31.998
Yeah. Yeah. So sometimes you need to get in the same headspace.

00:41:32.198 --> 00:41:35.438
Or my husband's favorite line. I hope they get diarrhea. I mean,

00:41:35.558 --> 00:41:39.998
I do. I have a doctor saying that because it is hysterical.

00:41:40.598 --> 00:41:52.018
Yeah. But, yeah, there's really some great tools that one can find on www.educateandrejuvenate.com.

00:41:53.318 --> 00:41:58.498
And what can, like, you, regards to joining the group, right?

00:41:58.718 --> 00:42:03.438
What are some things if one becomes a member? What does one benefit by being

00:42:03.438 --> 00:42:05.558
a member of your little community?

00:42:05.778 --> 00:42:10.158
Okay. Yep. So the Educate and Rejuvenate Club, it is our signature coaching

00:42:10.158 --> 00:42:12.118
membership. but there are also a lot of bonuses.

00:42:12.498 --> 00:42:17.178
Like, for example, you know how I mentioned that we started creating resources.

00:42:17.398 --> 00:42:20.678
So all of those are a part of it too. But at this point, they're kind of a bonus.

00:42:20.878 --> 00:42:23.818
So you get all the sub plans, you get all the, you know, social,

00:42:23.918 --> 00:42:27.538
emotional learning, math, reading, science, we have all of that for pre-K through

00:42:27.538 --> 00:42:29.338
six, you get all that as a bonus.

00:42:29.638 --> 00:42:34.518
But what is the heart of the club is our coaching and our community.

00:42:34.758 --> 00:42:38.178
So what we're doing this year, We actually this year changed it up a little

00:42:38.178 --> 00:42:41.978
bit. It's still, it's just making it even better than it was before.

00:42:43.118 --> 00:42:47.358
Now we have a monthly theme. So like I mentioned, this month's theme was Anchor

00:42:47.358 --> 00:42:50.818
in the Storm. And we talked about creating the anchor menu, our nervous system.

00:42:51.078 --> 00:42:54.138
All of it is very teacher geared, teacher related.

00:42:54.898 --> 00:42:58.358
Each month's theme is tied into what you might be experiencing then.

00:42:58.498 --> 00:43:02.618
But also, like, we didn't only talk about back to school. It was for like any

00:43:02.618 --> 00:43:05.418
storm at any part of your life. So you can always revisit it.

00:43:05.938 --> 00:43:12.918
Um, so we have the monthly themed call that we do. We have then open coaching calls. We can come in.

00:43:13.601 --> 00:43:20.921
Ask your questions, be coached. Last week I had two incredible members come on and be coached about.

00:43:21.001 --> 00:43:24.001
And again, I'm not going to give details because like what happens in the club

00:43:24.001 --> 00:43:28.101
stays in the club is what we say, but, um, get supported.

00:43:28.301 --> 00:43:34.841
And the incredible thing that happens is that, um, whatever anybody comes on

00:43:34.841 --> 00:43:38.001
and shares and gets coached about, there are other people in the chat who are

00:43:38.001 --> 00:43:40.101
like, this is exactly what I needed to hear.

00:43:40.241 --> 00:43:43.401
So whether or not you ever even come on, you're going

00:43:43.401 --> 00:43:46.281
to hear from someone else and see how their

00:43:46.281 --> 00:43:49.061
situation relates to yours sometimes it's like really close like

00:43:49.061 --> 00:43:52.441
oh my gosh i'm going through that like exact same thing other times

00:43:52.441 --> 00:43:55.361
it might be like oh like this applies to this thing

00:43:55.361 --> 00:43:58.401
in my life or in my teaching and you learn so

00:43:58.401 --> 00:44:01.381
much from hearing other people i i hear that again and

00:44:01.381 --> 00:44:04.721
again and again and it's just

00:44:04.721 --> 00:44:07.481
so powerful the coaching that happens inside the club and

00:44:07.481 --> 00:44:10.521
the great thing is that um we have

00:44:10.521 --> 00:44:16.521
four to five calls per month so if you pick just one to come to um like that

00:44:16.521 --> 00:44:22.161
alone is worth it but also we put them all into our mobile app so you can listen

00:44:22.161 --> 00:44:25.921
to any of them anytime if you can never make it live and you just turn it on

00:44:25.921 --> 00:44:28.881
while you're driving to and from school and listen to it like it's a podcast,

00:44:29.501 --> 00:44:33.461
or watch it while you're doing the dishes airplay it to your tv whatever you

00:44:33.461 --> 00:44:35.401
want to do The girl's got an app?

00:44:35.721 --> 00:44:38.941
It's like, what is happening? Yes. Big time.

00:44:40.501 --> 00:44:43.921
That's crazy. I love it. I love it, by the way. I'm sorry. I was like,

00:44:43.981 --> 00:44:46.101
wow, that's very surprising.

00:44:46.641 --> 00:44:49.661
Our members are loving the app. It's really cool. I mean, if you want to know

00:44:49.661 --> 00:44:53.441
how to do an app, it's not like custom coded. It's like a cool platform we use

00:44:53.441 --> 00:44:56.481
that turns it into an app. It's really fun. But...

00:44:57.424 --> 00:45:00.284
But what we love is it makes it so easy to use at your fingertips.

00:45:00.284 --> 00:45:03.104
So you can open at any time. One of our members, she said it.

00:45:03.224 --> 00:45:05.764
And now everybody in the club is saying it. Like when you have a bad day,

00:45:05.904 --> 00:45:09.104
there's always when you have a bad day, there's always a replay.

00:45:09.644 --> 00:45:13.024
It's like you're having like, oh, like you're just not feeling it.

00:45:13.084 --> 00:45:15.564
You're like, you can go in. You can just play whatever you want.

00:45:15.624 --> 00:45:17.704
You can use the search bar and be like, burn out.

00:45:17.844 --> 00:45:22.564
Find the one that has to do with whatever you're thinking about or hard conversation.

00:45:22.904 --> 00:45:25.284
Search that. Listen to a call about that.

00:45:26.584 --> 00:45:29.404
Um so whatever support you need

00:45:29.404 --> 00:45:32.364
it's there and then we have we do have a live call every single week

00:45:32.364 --> 00:45:36.004
other than like you know thanksgiving christmas you know

00:45:36.004 --> 00:45:39.144
things like that there's always a call because it's

00:45:39.144 --> 00:45:42.024
not that we expect people to come every week or even listen to all

00:45:42.024 --> 00:45:44.824
of them it's so that it's there when you need it so

00:45:44.824 --> 00:45:47.844
if you're like oh this week something is coming up for me i

00:45:47.844 --> 00:45:50.664
need to be one of the ones coming on boom it's there for you

00:45:50.664 --> 00:45:53.924
so that is why we have a weekly call is so

00:45:53.924 --> 00:45:56.764
that you can get support every single week if you

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need it and it's there for you and if not then you

00:45:59.764 --> 00:46:03.284
can you know it's there for you when you do need it the other cool thing we

00:46:03.284 --> 00:46:09.564
have in there is we have created four gpts custom gpts for our members that

00:46:09.564 --> 00:46:15.424
have been trained in my entire book um my certification materials frameworks

00:46:15.424 --> 00:46:18.884
what is happening i love i love all Well, this first of all,

00:46:19.084 --> 00:46:23.224
that we like, you're going to, you're my life coach now.

00:46:25.564 --> 00:46:28.744
I love it, Joe. Hey, I'm going to give you the link to the GPT.

00:46:28.864 --> 00:46:30.784
You should try it out because I would love to.

00:46:31.044 --> 00:46:34.204
Yeah, that's great. I love being coached by my own GPT. Like when I'm feeling

00:46:34.204 --> 00:46:38.924
stressed, I go and I grab that GPT and like, you can just like brain dump into

00:46:38.924 --> 00:46:40.684
it and it'll coach you on the spot.

00:46:41.373 --> 00:46:45.033
So when our members like, you know, you're in that moment, you're like,

00:46:45.113 --> 00:46:48.573
I can't even wait until that call on Thursday or whatever, or I can't make it

00:46:48.573 --> 00:46:53.473
and I just need to support right now or during recess or during prep.

00:46:54.493 --> 00:46:57.953
You have it there. So you can, it's linked in the app. And what I recommend

00:46:57.953 --> 00:47:01.833
is that our members also download the chat GPT app because then it's seamless.

00:47:01.853 --> 00:47:03.673
And then you can click on the button.

00:47:03.813 --> 00:47:06.493
It opens the GPT and you can just chat right to it.

00:47:06.593 --> 00:47:09.733
So we have the regular life coach GPT that can coach you in anything.

00:47:09.733 --> 00:47:15.953
We also have a very specific intentional schedule GPT that goes through the

00:47:15.953 --> 00:47:19.873
framework in chapter 10 of my book, which is all about creating a very intentional

00:47:19.873 --> 00:47:23.513
schedule for your week inside and outside of teaching.

00:47:24.833 --> 00:47:27.733
And you can use that each week to do your weekly planning.

00:47:27.993 --> 00:47:34.153
Then we have another GPT that is your money saver coach so that we know as teachers,

00:47:34.173 --> 00:47:35.873
we're pinching our pennies a lot.

00:47:36.013 --> 00:47:40.693
And so that can help with that. We wanted to make it so that the membership pays for itself.

00:47:41.013 --> 00:47:43.213
So that is why we added that GPT as well.

00:47:43.653 --> 00:47:48.553
And to just support you in that way. And then the final one is the lesson curator

00:47:48.553 --> 00:47:53.753
GPT that will match you with a resource in the Educate and Rejuvenate club that

00:47:53.753 --> 00:47:54.853
you already have access to.

00:47:55.053 --> 00:47:58.533
Or if there's not one for it, for example, for you secondary teachers,

00:47:58.713 --> 00:48:01.933
we actually don't have a lot for you. Sorry, as far as that goes.

00:48:03.053 --> 00:48:08.053
But it'll use kind of our lesson plan framework to create something for you.

00:48:08.053 --> 00:48:12.813
So, Kelsey is fixing everybody in every way.

00:48:12.973 --> 00:48:16.953
We told you. We told you. My goodness. I mean, we knew it. Of course.

00:48:17.533 --> 00:48:23.113
I'm now W, the architect of fixing things. That is, yes. I have to show you.

00:48:23.113 --> 00:48:24.973
I have to grab these. They're like across my desk.

00:48:25.413 --> 00:48:29.133
So, where did they go? Each month. Uh-oh. Each month we do a challenge.

00:48:29.673 --> 00:48:32.953
Each month we do a challenge in the club. And the challenge just helps you to

00:48:32.953 --> 00:48:36.453
use it, right? To come to the calls or whatever. And there's another.

00:48:36.953 --> 00:48:41.033
It's too far. I can't reach it. So we have each month, if you do the challenge,

00:48:41.053 --> 00:48:42.033
you get a sticker in the mail.

00:48:42.213 --> 00:48:45.673
So this is just our brand one. We have another cute one that has the and because

00:48:45.673 --> 00:48:49.573
we talk a lot about if you came to our summer event, we talked about the and

00:48:49.573 --> 00:48:52.613
and people wanted the and on everything after we talked about it,

00:48:52.653 --> 00:48:55.333
because it's all about how you can educate and rejuvenate.

00:48:55.553 --> 00:48:58.673
We had like where people are holding up signs like I educate and they would

00:48:58.673 --> 00:49:03.053
fill in their own blank of what they do, like read or ride my bike or whatever.

00:49:03.493 --> 00:49:06.493
Just a reminder that you're a whole person outside of teaching.

00:49:07.173 --> 00:49:11.093
I love that. Yeah. So starting in September, the sticker each month is going

00:49:11.093 --> 00:49:12.993
to relate to the theme of that month.

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And I'm going to have to go back and do August because how can we not do like an anchor sticker?

00:49:17.193 --> 00:49:19.253
Like I didn't think of it until later. I think you're going to have to do that

00:49:19.253 --> 00:49:22.873
now. Yeah. So if people do September's challenge, if you join and do September's

00:49:22.873 --> 00:49:24.413
challenge, you're going to get the anchor sticker.

00:49:24.693 --> 00:49:28.833
And I have to figure out what the actual sticker visual is going to be for September still.

00:49:28.993 --> 00:49:33.593
That's on my list for the rest of this week, actually. But...

00:49:34.019 --> 00:49:38.119
September is going to be all about habits and finding our energy drains,

00:49:38.179 --> 00:49:42.339
because I surveyed the membership and was like, what is like I listed all the

00:49:42.339 --> 00:49:44.499
things I want to teach this year? But what is the most urgent?

00:49:44.739 --> 00:49:50.579
And those are the two that were the top. So September is energy drains and habits

00:49:50.579 --> 00:49:56.039
so we can, you know, find those energy drains, kind of plug them up and then create better habits.

00:49:56.039 --> 00:50:00.759
And then October is going to be boundaries and hard conversations.

00:50:00.839 --> 00:50:03.139
So that's how far we planned out for now.

00:50:03.899 --> 00:50:07.199
As by September, we're going to have the whole year planned out and I'm just

00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:08.419
like still working on it.

00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:12.819
So you can, of course you can go to www.educate and rejuvenate to,

00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:17.019
uh, at.com to get information about becoming a member of this little community.

00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:20.139
Anything else special you want to mention about being a member of this community

00:50:20.139 --> 00:50:21.539
there, Kelsey, for our listeners.

00:50:21.999 --> 00:50:25.999
Um, I feel like I shared a lot about it, but what I do want to share is that if you go to the,

00:50:25.999 --> 00:50:29.859
website um you will find the club

00:50:29.859 --> 00:50:32.939
at full price but if you go

00:50:32.939 --> 00:50:35.919
through the special link i'm going to give joe and jamie

00:50:35.919 --> 00:50:40.059
you can join for one dollar to try it for your first week and then lock in our

00:50:40.059 --> 00:50:47.359
old pricing yeah so it's currently 49 a month we have members paying that um

00:50:47.359 --> 00:50:51.299
but you'll pay our old pricing of 37 a month which when you think of like one

00:50:51.299 --> 00:50:53.459
session with the life coaches normally Like if you Google,

00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:56.199
it's an average of $150, the membership.

00:50:56.559 --> 00:51:01.599
Like you could download $100 in resources from like our shop every month too.

00:51:01.739 --> 00:51:03.379
Like it does pay for itself.

00:51:03.539 --> 00:51:05.859
But that's why we created that GPT too, because we're like, we know,

00:51:05.899 --> 00:51:09.299
we know it's an investment, but it's an investment in yourself.

00:51:09.319 --> 00:51:11.159
In yourself, yeah. That is totally worth it.

00:51:11.439 --> 00:51:14.879
Like members have been around for four years because like I can't not have it.

00:51:15.285 --> 00:51:20.705
A sneak peek. October sticker is going to be a dumpster fire that is going to

00:51:20.705 --> 00:51:24.145
represent what Kelsey is going to help me put out, which is my life. Oh, my gosh.

00:51:24.565 --> 00:51:28.105
That would be hilarious to have a dumpster fire sticker. Can you imagine?

00:51:28.725 --> 00:51:31.985
We're also envisioning like if people collect the stickers like through the

00:51:31.985 --> 00:51:34.305
year, it's like, oh, what do they get when they do that? We're still figuring

00:51:34.305 --> 00:51:36.645
it out. It's fun. I love it.

00:51:37.325 --> 00:51:40.225
The stuff you're doing is brilliant. And, you know, you can also,

00:51:40.385 --> 00:51:44.885
by the way, part, I guess you can call it part two of our conversation of our

00:51:44.885 --> 00:51:49.185
little guest swap is going to be on Kelsey's podcast, which we'll have linked down below as well.

00:51:50.305 --> 00:51:53.365
So, you know, as always, Jamie, I appreciate you.

00:51:53.585 --> 00:51:57.105
Kelsey, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you and some of the information

00:51:57.105 --> 00:52:02.445
that you've shared with us and for our listeners to really go through this whole

00:52:02.445 --> 00:52:05.005
process and check out the club.

00:52:05.765 --> 00:52:10.145
Kelsey, from the lipstick to the app, I appreciate every minute of what you

00:52:10.145 --> 00:52:11.865
said. I mean, all of all the things.

00:52:12.425 --> 00:52:17.105
Thank you so much for joining us on today's episode of the Balancing Act podcast.

00:52:17.465 --> 00:52:21.685
So much fun. Thank you for having me. And then one other thing I forgot to tell

00:52:21.685 --> 00:52:24.005
your listeners is that I do have a freebie, too.

00:52:24.165 --> 00:52:28.825
So even if they're not ready to join the club, if you go to Instagram and comment

00:52:28.825 --> 00:52:31.785
on we have a bunch of our posts that are the most popular, their permission

00:52:31.785 --> 00:52:35.565
slips. They're giving you permission to do lots of different things,

00:52:35.745 --> 00:52:37.745
like, you know, leave at contract time or whatever.

00:52:38.185 --> 00:52:42.145
Yeah. Comment on any of those posts. Comment permission. It'll send you our

00:52:42.145 --> 00:52:44.945
brand new printable permission slips where you can actually print them out on

00:52:44.945 --> 00:52:48.505
sticky notes and put them around your room to remind yourself all those things.

00:52:48.825 --> 00:52:52.265
So check that out, too. I forgot to mention that. Awesome. Thank you very much,

00:52:52.365 --> 00:52:55.225
Kelsey. And we'll see everybody next time on the Balancing Act podcast.

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Music.